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فعلى فرض انها كانت سابقا للسعودية وتنازلت عنها لمصر
لا تقل لي على فرض واثبت بالدليل ان السعودية تنازلت عنهما لصالح مصر وساكون شاكرا لك..
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شكرا لك اخي بريق واريد ان اؤكد ان احكام المنطقة "ج" لا تطبق على الجزيرتين لخلوها من اي مظهر سيادي مصري عليهما واقصد بذلك عناصر الشرطة المدنية المصرية
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لمن تعود جزيرتا تيران وصنافير؟ سؤال!!
البعض يقول انها مصرية
والبعض الاخر يقول انها سعودية
وحتى الان التعتيم العربي الرسمي مستمر بلا هوادة!
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موقع وزارة الخارحية الامريكية يقول انها سعودية والسعوديون يتفاوضون بشان موضوع احتلال "اسرائيل" لجزيرة تيران مع الولايات المتحدة الامريكية (للعلم لم يكن الصهاينة حتى تاريخه ان احتلوا جزيرة صنافير)
(المقال طويل ويمكن الرجوع اليه بالرابط ادناه ولهذا سوف اقتطع ما يفيد الموضوع)
الوثيقة لا تدع مجالا للتنازع حول الملكية الثابته للسعودية لجزيرة تيران وتشعر امريكا بان اسرائيل بوضعها شروطا تعجيزية لا تنوي الانسحاب من تيران ما لم يتم اجبارها بالقوة,,
الوثيقة:
Foreign Relations of the United States, 1964–1968
Volume XX, Arab-Israeli Dispute, 1967–68, Document 47
47. Telegram From the Department of State to the Embassy in Israel
Ambassador requested deliver following personal message in written form from Secretary to FonMin Eban re Tiran problem:
التاريخ:
Washington, January 17, 1968
“Dear Mr. Minister:
Encouraged by these exchanges, I subsequently instructed the US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia to explore this question further with King Faisal. Our Ambassador had a frank and detailed discussion of this subject with His Majesty on January 13. The King's comments made clear:
(a) that he regards Tiran Island as part of Saudi territory, and that, for example, his government has granted a concession covering the island; and
(b) that he has no plan to militarize Tiran or to use it to impede freedom of navigation into Tiran Strait.
I am greatly encouraged by His Majesty's position. On the basis of his assurances to our Ambassador, I believe that the problems the Israeli side foresaw if your government withdrew will not arise. Specifically, I would expect neither alienation of this portion of Saudi territory, its militarization nor its use in any way to interfere with freedom of navigation through the Straits of Tiran. I would therefore hope that your government would now consider that its troops can be withdrawn from the island without incurring adverse consequences for Israel.
As we have earlier indicated to your government, such action will remove a serious embarrassment in our own relations with the Saudi authorities. I therefore look forward to receiving a favorable response from your government. It will, of course, be immediately communicated to King Faisal and will, I am sure, have a useful and helpful impact
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2. Since much of good effect of forthcoming Israeli position on Tiran would be vitiated by public disclosure of King Faisal's attitude, we assume that FonMin will agree that this aspect should receive no publicity. For record, we will take a similar line with Saudis when conveying Israeli decision.
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Saudi Arabian acknowledgment that the Straits of Tiran was an international waterway. Israel also asked whether the United States could obtain from Saudi Arabia a “binding written undertaking” that Tiran Island would remain permanently uninhabited. Israel also asked whether the United States would underwrite any such Saudi undertakings by making them a matter of U.S. “responsibility and commitment” as regards Israel. Harman indicated that he was instructed to stress the need for “absolute precision” in these assurances. (Telegram 111432 to Tel Aviv, February 7; National Archives and Records Administration, RG 59, Central Files 1967-69, POL 32-6 TIRAN) Ambassador Eilts in Jidda assessed the Israeli response to Secretary Rusk's letter as “very disappointing,” and noted that Israel was proposing conditions that King Faisal could not accept. Eilts felt that the Israeli conditions raised the question of whether Israel had any intention of leaving Tiran unless forced out. (Telegram 2776 from Jidda, February 10; ibid.)
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المصدر:
http://history.state.gov/historicald...1964-68v20/d47
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